Sep
26
2011
Advanced CEB Press and Solar Panels – Open Source Ecology
By Solar Expert
Here we continue documentation of the open source tractor (LifeTrac) and the CEB press (Factor e Liberator) as built and used at Factor e Farm. We also show how we made solar panels from solar cells. More info: openfarmtech.org We arelooking for people who are interested in building the world’s first replicable open source self-sufficient decentralized high appropriate tech permaculture village – to transcend survival and evolve to freedom. Read more at www.OpenFarmTech.org Visit our myspace page www.myspace.com
@davetileguy Way to utterly and completely miss the point.
@henrikmk Do what you dream of doing just don’t fool yourself ,you are reinventing the wheel.
@henrikmk You can buy prints off the internet,have you ever been to the Library? don’t get me wrong I love to build things on my own that already exist ,but I don’t lie to myself and say I’m saving time ,money ,energy ,or the world !!! LOL My father in law has two tractors that where his fathers, and while they don’t have power steering they will last another generation , that is the definition of quality , you are preaching saving energy while consuming by welding and buying parts!! recycle!!
@davetileguy That’s not the point. You probably wouldn’t need it now. The point is to have blueprints for machines that anyone in the entire world can build, adapt and improve. You could replace the engine with one that is homebuilt, electric or whatever. They are not profit-driven designs, so you don’t have to cut corners on quality. They can also be a security for a day, when equipment like this is priced out of your range, the economy goes bust or you are forced to pay for a design.
@jackalsocoke You could buy a tractor for cheap,the energy to forge it was used long ago,you bought new steel,powered a welder,grinder,etc experimented, wasted time,I know ,I make a lot of things because I enjoy it,but in the end it’s almost allways more efficient to buy it.Our diff is I’m not claiming enviromentalism.Open source is reverse engineering.And what are you selling that would concern you about legal matters?
@jackalsocoke Tractors are’nt software,your post is vauge what specificly are you talking about?
@davetileguy So, yeah, as infuriating as it sounds in order to do a proper open sourcing you need to basically reinvent the wheel. Same thing is done with computer software all the time and for some of the same legal reasons. It takes years of hard work, and we’re lucky people and companies with interests donate their time to do it, it drives down costs associated with barriers to entrance and those associated with the product itself as well it often comes out with new inventions on its own.
@davetileguy Horses are actually a lot more wasteful, you need to feed them every day and do maintainance too, more hours and materials than a tractor. The entire point is to *open source* a working tractor, not simply to have one for having one. You can’t open source patented & copy righted designs for selling, modding, etc. just like opensource code, every bit of it has to be from libraries etc. that carry proper open licenses. Otherwise you’re just asking for a law suit when you sell it.
you could buy an old tractor that actually worked ,but nooo lets waste energy welding experimenting REINVENTING THE FUCKING WHEEL!! get some horses